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So if God didn't create the Universe how did all the materials that, through evolution, created life?

So if God didn't create the Universe how did all the materials that, through evolution, created life? Topic: How to write a wave function
November 20, 2019 / By Dindraine
Question: Please no smart-*** answers, Just let me know your opinion. Where did the materials that were needed for the big bang come from. How did the Universe come to be? It is ever-expanding so it had to have a start. I'm not challenging anyone i'm just curious as to what the most common beliefs are on this topic. "You're actually asking two seperate questions? no. really? some people think they're so much smarter... anyway thanks for all the responses guys. well as for the comments about how when we start to understand things previously not understood, thunderstorms, volcanoes, etc and we learn god is not the direct cause i wouldn't say that hurts the case for a supreme being. If he created the universe he created this earth and everything in it. Just because we understand how he made them work doesn't mean he doesn't exist. And as for the comment saying who created God the bible plainly states he is an eternal being, he created time, it's just a constraint of our universe. that's why when he comes a second time, and we are in heaven or hell, it's eternal, there will be no time. "You're actually asking two seperate questions?" no. really? Some people think they are so much smarter... anyway thanks for all the responses guys. well as for the comments about how when we start to understand things previously not understood, thunderstorms, volcanoes, etc and we learn god is not the direct cause i wouldn't say that hurts the case for a supreme being. If he created the universe he created this earth and everything in it. Just because we understand how he made them work doesn't mean he doesn't exist. And as for the comment saying who created God the bible plainly states he is an eternal being, he created time, it's just a constraint of our universe. that's why when he comes a second time, and we are in heaven or hell, it's eternal, there will be no time.
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Carine Carine | 1 day ago
I'm not your basic religious fundamentalist. I have a lot of trouble with putting faith in a book written some 2,000 years ago by several different authors who, in countless cases, disagreed with each other. At the same time, though, I personally can't escape the requirement that there exists -- or did exist -- a First Cause. Science has been struggling long and hard with anwering your question and so far has come up with little more than theory. I try to imagine the time when science will be able to prove one or more of these theories with some etched-in-stone, conclusive physical evidence. Let's say that it's discovered that A + B - Y = The Universe. All well and good, but we'd still be left with the same question -- how did it become possible that A + B - Y = The Universe? For that matter how did A, B and Y first come into existence? Some scientists argue that the creation of our universe was just a kind of accident. That, if true, seems to finally get rid of a First Cause, but how was it possible for such an accident to occur in the first place. Then we hear about notions that our universe is but one that's somehow sprung from some Mother Universe, and that there are an infinity of other universes. Once again, how did that Mother Universe come into existence without a First Cause. It seems obvious to me that no matter how the universe formed we'll never get away from that First Cause, the supreme entity that started it all. B.T.W Too bad TRAILR isn't familiar with quantum mechanics and wave functions which show that if given enough time his watch would indeed reassemble itself.
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Carine Originally Answered: If evolution says life happen by accident with no help from God, why can't scientist create life?
Because science can't yet do everything. It can't yet do MOST things, in fact. We can't yet recreate that something for the same reason we can't yet teleport or graft wings onto humans or cure the common cold. For the same reasons we haven't yet created planets, artificially created or negated gravity, or invented an iPod with 1 TB of memory. Science is progressive. New discoveries lead to newer discoveries, which in turn leads to newer discoveries. Science is currently working on replicating potential early earth, abiogenesis conditions, but it will take time and multiple iterations, just like it did to invent the first iPod, build the first rocket capable of carrying man into space, or produce the first working light bulb (to get a lightbulb that lasted just 40 hours before burning out took nearly 70 years and tens of thousands of prototypes and even then we couldn't make affordable CFL or LED bulbs for another 120 years or so). A LOT of advancement has actually been made in the area the past five years, but it will still take a while before we are close to knowing with relative certainty the type of processes that moved self-replicating chemicals into the world of the living. Look up RNA World hypothesis for more information. Don't mistake a lack of current ability to do a thing with the thing's being impossible to do. On July 1, 1969, walking on the moon was impossible and mankind had gone a million years without ever doing it. By August 1, 1969, scientists were studying actual moon rocks brought back by men actually walking on the moon. At some point we couldn't, then at some point we could. That's how things work. I do second Blapperz suggestion of the cdk007 YouTube channel. Great stuff on there. As for "d_r_siva's" quote, the article is 2 years old and didn't exactly produce those results after all. The truth of current advancements are closer to what Blapperz listed, with the creation of some amino acids under natural conditions, but no lifeforms, simple or otherwise, and especially not as complex as a bacterium.

Anastacia Anastacia
Your question is actually asking two seperate ========= questions. What came before the universe? How did life evolve? This is a very common misconception about the Big Bang Theory. The Big Bang theory says absolutely nothing about the origin of the universe. The word Big Bang is not a good term to describe this theory and was invented during a radio broadcast back in the 1940s by a skeptic of the theory who believed in the "steady state model" of the universe.. The term stuck. . The name should be "The Expanding Universe Theory". Evolution is a completely different subject outside the scope of the Astronomy & Space topic. Possibly the biology topic may provide an answer to that part of your question. NASA has a good web site that accurately describes the "Big Bang Theory". http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/
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Webster Webster
I could rattle off a long explanation of the origin of the Universe and matter and so on as described by our current understanding of physics, but that misses the fundamental tenet of this whole question, which is simply this: If one explanation does not fit completely, that does NOT mean another is true by default. A lot of religious people ask this question as if the only possible options are that either we know exactly where everything came from or else it must have been God. Well, that's what people said about thunderstorms, earthquakes and solar eclipses until comparatively recently. As science progresses the idea of direct divine intervention retreats further and further as we understand more and more. Physics as yet may not be able to explain the precise origin of the Universe, but that doesn't mean you can just slot a divine entity in there as an explanation, since there is no more proof of its existence than space pixies from dimension Z34. Science is comfortable with the idea that we don't know everything yet, but we will keep looking. The use of a god to fill the gaps seems to me no more than an intellectual cop-out, a crutch for those who can't deal with the idea of not knowing everything.
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Salathiel Salathiel
Here is the short answer. Physicists have a pretty fair idea of what happened an umpteenth of a second after the actual start and after that. But before that they have no firm idea and will say so. So they do not know where the Universe came from. Various ideas based on mathematical work have been thrown about but as there is no physical evidence, or very little, then any of them might be right or all of them might be wrong, so far. The materials that go to make up life did not exist in the very early Universe, which was about 73% hydrogen, 25% helium and the rest lithium and boron. Life as we understand it is based on carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus, sulphur and hydrogen to name some of the the most important chemical elements. These are products of exploding stars and are actually fairly scarce in the Universe as a whole, they make up just a percent or less. So most of the stuff you and I are made of was formed inside the depths of a star. The hypothetical beginning of life on Earth is not evolution but "abiogenesis". This hypothesis is based on the confirmed observation that materials like carbon, nitrogen, oxygen etc. can combine in some circumstances to produce the chemicals that are important to life. They have not been observed to form living systems or even close to them but the more research is done the more it is found that they can get closer and closer by themselves, without much guidance from chemists, other than putting them in what might be favorable conditions and letting them get on with it. This is not a "belief", it is a fact. It is only after life appears that biological evolution begins to work. Evolution deals with populations of existing organisms, not with the ultimate origin of the organisms.
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Murray Murray
The Big Bang didn't start with "materials" as such. Atoms did not form until some time later. At the beginning, the most fundamental particles we know would have been quarks. When and how they formed is not known, I don't think. Trailtrader, the reason you can't get very good answers to what happened at the very beginning is because nobody knows. Not only that, I believe the very first moment of the Universe is fundamentally *un-knowable*. I don't even think it's technically correct to refer to a first moment. Now as to where the materials for the beginning of life on earth came from, you have to go a little farther forward, and this is something we know better. Before galaxies and stars formed, the universe consisted almost completely of hydrogen, once atoms formed. There was some helium and may have been some trace amounts of lithium. As enormous clouds of this matter gathered together gravitationally and began contracting, they heated up. This process is well understood. Eventually they became what we call Population III stars. As they went through their cycles, new elements were formed in their cores as the result of a series of nuclear fusion reactions. These were spewed out in supernova explosions and contributed to a second generation of stars which would now have more elements like carbon, oxygen, and nitrogen. These stellar element synthesizers kept enriching the interstellar medium over billions of years with the elements which went into making the compounds that ended up in our planet and our bodies. As Carl Sagan said, "We are star-stuff, contemplating the stars." Edit: Folks, if your child saw a picture of the pyramids in a book and asked, "Wow, how were THEY made?" would you be satisfied to answer, "People did it."? Edit: Trailtrader, the watch-in-a-bag and 747-in-a-junkyard arguments are creationist propaganda. These analogies are NOT applicable to stellar, chemical, or biological evolution. For example, biological evolution is NOT a random process. Nor is it intelligent. People who have studied this subject understand this.
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Murray Originally Answered: Does Evolution Occur Faster at the Equator? Why can't humans can't evolve like the theory? God created life?
Bilbo, You're copy and pasting without including the whole article: "The finding supports a theory put forth by biologist Klaus Rohde in 1992 that climate can have a powerful effect on how fast organisms evolve and branch off into new species. Scientists think it works like this: Warmer temperatures speed up metabolism by allowing chemical reactions to occur at a faster rate, but this increased efficiency comes at a price: it produces higher quantities of charged atoms or molecules called "free radicals," which can damage biological molecules like proteins and so-called "nucleic acids" such as DNA. Higher metabolism also speeds up DNA replication, which is just another chemical reaction, and this can increase the number of copying mistakes that can occur. Together, damage to DNA by free radicals and replication mistakes could result in mutations that, over time and through natural selection pressures, can form new species." It's just findings supporting a theory, but you should include the whole thing because it explains it quite nicely..

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